"I think there was a
winner in the sense that Barack Obama not only gained ground he lost but
he cauterized some wounds that he inflicted on himself by seeming too
diffident and disengaged. Both
candidates tonight I think tip-toed right up to the point of rudeness,
but stepped back. It was a very good fight. I have seen every
presidential debate in American history since the four of Nixon and
Kennedy in 1960. This was immeasurably the best," - George F. Will.
MR. ROMNEY: But that’s not what you done in the last four years. That’s the problem.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Sure it is.
MR. ROMNEY: In the last four years, you cut permits and licenses on federal land and federal waters in half.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Not true, Governor Romney.
MR. ROMNEY: So how much did you cut them by?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: It’s not true.
MR. ROMNEY: By how much did you cut them by, then?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Governor, we have actually produced more oil on —
MR. ROMNEY: No, no, how much did you cut licenses and permits on federal land and federal waters?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Governor Romney, here’s what we did. There were a whole bunch of oil companies —
MR. ROMNEY: No, I had a — I had a — I had a question —
PRESIDENT OBAMA: No, you — no, you — you — you want —
MR. ROMNEY: — and the question was how much did you cut them by?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: — you want me to answer a question, I’m —
MR. ROMNEY: How much did you cut them by?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: — I’m happy to answer the question.
MR. ROMNEY: All right, and it is?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Here’s what happened. You had a whole
bunch of oil companies who had leases on public lands that they weren’t
using. So what we said was, you can’t just sit on this for 10, 20, 30
years, decide when you want to drill, when you want to produce, when
it’s most profitable for you. These are public lands. So if you want to
drill on public lands, you use it or you lose it.
MR. ROMNEY: OK — (inaudible) —
PRESIDENT OBAMA: And so what we did was take away —
MR. ROMNEY: That’s —
PRESIDENT OBAMA: — those leases, and we are now reletting them so that we can actually make a profit.
MR. ROMNEY: And — and — and production on private — on government lands is down.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: And the production is up. No it isn’t.
MR. ROMNEY: Production on government land of oil is down 14 percent.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Governor —
MR. ROMNEY: And production of gas is down 9 percent.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: What you’re saying is just not true. It’s just not true.
MR. ROMNEY: I — it’s absolutely true. Look, there’s no question but that the people recognize that we have not produced more oil —
PRESIDENT OBAMA: I’ll give you your time. Go ahead.
MR. ROMNEY: — and gas on federal lands and in federal
waters. And coal — coal production is not up, coal jobs are not up. I
was just at a coal facility where some 1,200 people lost their jobs. The
right course for America is to have a true all-of-the-above policy. I
don’t think anyone really believes that you’re a person who’s going to
be pushing for oil and gas and coal.
You’ll get your chance in a moment. I’m still speaking.
(Chuckles.)
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, Governor, if — if you’re asking me a question, I’m going to answer it.
MR. ROMNEY: My — and the answer is I don’t believe people think that’s the case, because I — I’m — that wasn’t a question.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: OK. All right.
MR. ROMNEY: That was a statement.
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