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Saturday, July 8, 2017

To Deplorable Pride's Brian Talbert, Short is Sad.

Mr Talbert, whom I see has promoted himself from Co-Founder to Founder of Deplorable Pride- an Albermarle NC gay Trump fanboy club with twelve members- dropped in on WLJ July 8.

Mr Talbert is always welcome to comment here.

We have a different policy than he does at Deplorable Pride's social media sites*.

Here, anyone is free to comment.

Mr Talbert blocks Facebook questioners who annoy him.

I know: he did it to me after I asked how he was planning to spend the money he is raising on

He wants $100,000 of other people's money for unstated purposes related to a free-floating sense of rejection by, and anger, at mean liberal gays who wouldn't give him a float glorifying President Trump in the Charlotte Pride Parade.

(I saved the exchange, which Mr Talbert erased. You can see it here.)

So Mr Talbert took issue with a post I made on July 4.

Twice, in fact. At 3:49 pm Mr Talbert posted as "Anonymous",
And I am succeeding like him also. LOL
(The record, like that of the President, suggests otherwise.)

Apparently feeling his oats, Mr Talbert was back 26 minutes later, uncloaked:
That is all you can write? WOW! Just how lazy are you? I mean half of this is even copied and pasted. Yet you have the nerve to question someone else? Pathetic. -Brian Talbert Founder Deplorable Pride.
The post to which Mr Talbert objects contrasted one of the President's favorite prevarications- that long-promised actions or plans will happen in two weeks- with a Deplorable Pride post- by him- promising a promised podcast that didn't happen, would- in a couple of weeks.

(The podcast was supposed to repeal and replace a weekly YouTube video program on conservative gayness. It didn't happen, either. If you blinked, you missed the set-up and take down of Deplorable Pride's channel.)

See, Deplorable Pride's reason to be is as slavish kiss-ups to the President. It amused me that DP would take to aping the President's excuses for failure, so throughgoing is their adoration.

Here's the post:

Mr Talbert has a point. I used only 23 words to make fun of his 57 words.

He is a thrifty wordsmith. He only employed 39.58% of a presidential tweet.

On other hand, I was making a point. His response is entirely crafted to evade it.

That's his right. He often says of his work as "oppressed turned oppressor" that he is "100% truthful and transparent" until you ask questions to test those claims.

Then he's the Sphinx of Stanly County.

But I take him at his word that the worth of a contention is to be measured by its length, by which measure mine fall lamentably short.

Consider that the longest presidential inaugural address was given by President William Henry Harrison in a driving rainstorm on March 4, 1841.

It took the 68-year-old general an hour and 45 minutes to read the 8,445-word speech. He wrote it all himself.

It would have been longer but Secretary of State-designate Daniel Webster pared it down to where it could be heard in full in one day, "killing seventeen Roman proconsuls" in the process. The President, refusing hat and overcoat, caught cold and died a month later.

Children struggle to this day to commit Harrison's deathless- metaphorically, that is- prose:
Although the fiat of the people has gone forth proclaiming me the Chief Magistrate of this glorious Union, nothing upon their part remaining to be done, it may be thought that a motive may exist to keep up the delusion under which they may be supposed to have acted in relation to my principles and opinions; and perhaps there may be some in this assembly who have come here either prepared to condemn those I shall now deliver, or, approving them, to doubt the sincerity with which they are now uttered. But the lapse of a few months will confirm or dispel their fears. The outline of principles to govern and measures to be adopted by an Administration not yet begun will soon be exchanged for immutable history, and I shall stand either exonerated by my countrymen or classed with the mass of those who promised that they might deceive and flattered with the intention to betray. However strong may be my present purpose to realize the expectations of a magnanimous and confiding people, I too well understand the dangerous temptations to which I shall be exposed from the magnitude of the power which it has been the pleasure of the people to commit to my hands not to place my chief confidence upon the aid of that Almighty Power which has hitherto protected me and enabled me to bring to favorable issues other important but still greatly inferior trusts heretofore confided to me by my country...
It rained at President Trump's inauguration, too.

Perhaps conscious of precedent, the 70-year-old new commander-in-chief took twenty minutes to deliver a 1433-word speech.

It was the shortest address in forty years.

But not the shortest ever: Lincoln's second inaugural address ("with malice toward none, with charity toward all") was praised by the African-American civil rights activist Frederick Douglass as "more like a sermon than a speech."

That is high praise indeed. As the President noted in February, Douglass "an example of somebody who's done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more."

That speech was 700 words long.

Shorter, still, was President George Washington's second inaugural address in 1793: 135 words.

You can read it all here:
Fellow Citizens: 
I am again called upon by the voice of my country to execute the functions of its Chief Magistrate. When the occasion proper for it shall arrive, I shall endeavor to express the high sense I entertain of this distinguished honor, and of the confidence which has been reposed in me by the people of united America. 
Previous to the execution of any official act of the President the Constitution requires an oath of office. This oath I am now about to take, and in your presence: That if it shall be found during my administration of the Government I have in any instance violated willingly or knowingly the injunctions thereof, I may (besides incurring constitutional punishment) be subject to the upbraidings of all who are now witnesses of the present solemn ceremony.
By Brian Talbert's standard, the addresses of Washington and Lincoln, are lazy and pathetic.

Trump's, too.



*Well, that is, if Deplorable Pride controls them. Last weekend their Facebook page, Official Website" and Twitter feed all got hacked by wits who turned the latter two into a gay dating site for conservatives.


  1. What is lazy and pathetic is your attempt to compare yourself to Washington and Lincoln. And lets correct the record for you once again. I was hardly commenting anonymously is I put Brian Talbert Founder of Deplorable Pride. Wow, you are lazy! Thanks.

  2. Try again, Mr Talbert. You have a remarkable gift for utterly missing the point.As I made clear to every reader but you, you made the argument that short is lazy and pathetic. I just drew a comparison, which also included the President. I also noted you posted anonymously in the first of two posts. There's a difference. You remain welcome to comment here. It's a shame you seem afraid to meet critics on your home ground at Facebook, though. Can't take what you dish out, I guess.